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Post Game Thoughts: DePaul 71, Seton Hall 79 as Pirates Jab Demons to Win Decision

Final: DePaul Blue Demons 71, Seton Hall Pirates 79

-Seton Hall improved to (14-9, 5-7) this afternoon defeating DePaul (8-16, 1-11) at The Rock, 79-71.  For much of the first half the Pirates played impressive basketball in which they led, 50-35 at the break.  That said, DePaul was able to reel off a couple big runs of their own in the 1st half, pulling within 4 with 3:30 remaining, before the Pirates were able to extend the lead to 15 points.  

The first half was a game of runs as Seton Hall would explode into building double-digit leads before their tired legs would allow DePaul to inch their way closer throughout the first 20 minutes. I fully expected to see an increase in their defensive intensity in the 2nd half, however it never came to fruition as DePaul reeled off a 14-3 run to begin the half, ensuring that they would be sticking around today.  And stick around they did as they were able to bring the deficit to just 4 points with just 19 seconds remaining, forcing the Pirates to make their free throws to put this game away. 

-Speaking of making FTs, Gonzo is learning! He removed Pope from the game during a timeout where the Pirates faced having to inbound the ball protecting a 4 point lead with 20 seconds to play.  It was the right decision by Bobby to get Pope off of the floor, JRob received the inbound pass and proceeded to make both of his throws. Again, right decision by Bobby to remove Pope in this situation, but a little interesting as he defended his decision of keeping Pope in the game for rebounding purposes earlier this week.  I'm glad to see he reconsidered.  

--Seton Hall's defense left a lot to be desired as they performed below average for the third straight game.  Defense has continued to be a troubling aspect of this squad through Big East play, and today, they allowed DePaul to shoot 44%.  Defensive breakdowns continue to plaque Pirates, as I said to myself, "that was too easy," on at least 5 Demon layups this afternoon.  For whatever reason, the opposition has been able to easily penetrate to the basket over recent play.  I understand the Pirate bigs are being extremely cautious to stay out of foul trouble, but even the guards have allowed their men to blow by them for easy layups on multiple occasions.  

-I don't want to believe that the Pirates were looking past the Demons, looking forward to St. John's or even West Virginia, but after watching the performance on the defensive end, you'd have to wonder.  That mindset will end all postseason hopes very quickly and they'll need to lose it immediately before showing up at St. John's on Wednesday.  The team must not forget they still need to win their first road game of the season and should they go into St. John's assuming they're going to win without much effort like this afternoon, they'll be sadly mistaken after 40 minutes with the Red Storm.  

-After an impressive showing against Notre Dame, the PG trio brought back the sloppy play that we've seen much of the year.  After the ND game, I mentioned I wanted to see consistency out of this group, having them follow up the impressive performance with another one.  Unfortunately, that wasn't the case today.  Keon Lawrence added his typical 3-of-9 (with 2 easy layups) for 8PTS/4REB/STL/TO, Eugene Harvey's production was minimal (5PTS/3REB/2AST/STL/TO) and Jordan Theodore who has been fighting through a toe injury was wildly inconsistent with 8PTS/4AST/2ASTL/REB/4TO.  JT put together his 2nd consecutive game shooting well on 3-of-4 shooting, yet was too sloppy with the ball handing it over 4 times.  I wouldn't be too concerned about the lingering turf toe injury as Theodore led all SHU PGs with 27 minutes played. 

-Herb Pope was very impressive today, dominating anyone that came close to the glass finishing with, 8PTS/15REB/2AST/2BLK/STL on a smart 4-of-7 shot selection.  Pope came just 2 PTS shy of recording his first double-double in 5.5 weeks.  Death, Taxes and a Pope double-double seem so long ago! Whatever.  I'll take a performance like this out of him every game if I could.  It's more important that he dominates the glass than fills up the bucket, especially with the offensive emergence of Jeff Robinson.  

-JRob put forth another impressive performance with 16PTS on 7-of-10 shooting, he's shooting 70% over the last 2 games, against ND he was also good on 7-of-10 of his attempts.  As long as he stays away from those 3PT heaves, keeps his game inside his range hitting his mid-range jumper, JRob has shown he can be a very efficient scorer. Robinson is slowly becoming one of the team's top options, especially when Jeremy Hazell isn't having his best day.

-Speaking of Hazell, he hit an unbelievable buzzer-beater 3PT attempt from about 40 feet away with the clock expiring in the first half.  After Hazell released the ball, it looked like he turned his back on the shot as it fell through the net, he knew it was good.  All in all, it wasn't Hazell's best game as he finished on 6-of-16 shooting (3-of-9 from 3PT) for 18PTS/3AST/3REB.  Early on it looked like Hazell was making a concentrated effort to get his teammates involved, but came out firing in the 2nd half, how could you not after that make to end the first half? 

-The Pirates led the Demons in all but one statistical category (which they tied): FG%, 3PT%, FT%, REB, AST, BLK (tied), TO, PF.  Box Score here.  

-DePaul's Will Walker, "Iron Will," played all 40 minutes today, good for 19PTS/6REB/STL/BLK/TO on a Hazell-esque 7-of-24, 3-of-13 3PT shooting.  If Walker was clicking today, the outcome may have been much different.  Credit Keon Lawrence and Jordan Theodore for stepping up defensively, making a concentrated effort to stop Will.  The Blue Demons had 4 in double figures, including Tony Freeland, who finished with 18PTS/8REB and a double-double by Mac Koshwal (11PTS/10REB).  

-The Pirates held court at home.  Yes, the game was too close for comfort and yes, there was a lack of killer instinct on display from the Pirates. Despite having the Blue Demons on the ropes several times, the Pirates kept them at arm's length with little jabs, instead of going in for the KO, they decided to play it safe and settle for a decision.  As we've seen all season, the Pirates won't win many decisions and they certainly won't win any on the road.  Get to work gentlemen.  

... Much more to come in tomorrow's day after post.  

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The Pirates have got to learn to put teams away. They had DePaul down for the count a couple different times but could never made that extra play that would have opened the game up.

That said, good win – way to hold serve. Came out of the gates real hot and with a bunch of energy. Pope did a great job on the glass and Jrob was huge all game on both ends. Being an undersized 4, he’s always going to be in foul trouble during conference games. We need one of the other bigs to step in and give us a little more. Whether that is F. Hall, John Garcia, or maybe even playing Stixs a little more at the 4 like they have done previously … I’m not sure.

Big game Wednesday in Queens. Anyone have any idea what subways go near the gym from NYC?

by flexcut1998 on Feb 14, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

I think they took DePaul a bit too lightly, especially after jumping out big on them.

They came out flat in the 2nd half, thinking it was over. That mentality will do them in on the road, although, seeing as they haven’t won a road game this season, it’d be silly to have that mentality. Ferrakohn Hall got some extended minutes (13) and contributed 3PTS/3REBs, but you’re right, he needs to do more. He missed a couple easy put-backs right around the rim, he’s got to finish stronger. You begin to wonder exactly why he received 3 coach’s DNP a few weeks back? He could have picked up some valuable minutes to improve down the stretch, but it looks like Bobby is making his push with playing time now. So be it, but you’re right, we need more.

Gonzo Ball
[gahn-zo-bawl]
-noun 1. a game played by 13 members of a basketball team, five at a time, sometimes crisp, often sloppy, but always furiously.

by GonzoBallSHU on Feb 14, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple other thoughts....

- Perimeter defense was good. Will Walker is kind of like a poor man’s Scottie Reynolds. He is going to take a bunch of shots and as such will put up numbers. But I thought they did a good job making him work for what he got.

- We have to lead the country in a stat that is not recorded. How many times this year has Seton Hall made a steal, and then turned it over on the preceding transition play? Bet it has happened ~30 times this year.

- This game would have been blowout city if not for #22 on Depaul, who apparently played his best game of the year. #13 on Depaul is also a solid Big East player. The drop off after that is significant. Their lead guard (#0 – I think) is steady but there is little to nothing in terms of even average Big East players on their bench. That’s how you end up 1 and schedule in conference play. They play hard though – give them credit there.

- The end of game free throw shooting continues to be a debacle. Even our good free throw shooters have caught this bug. Today is was Hazell. But I think Stix missed a big one and he shoots in the mid 80’s.

- Melvin Oliver stole some minutes today which helped when the bigs were in foul trouble in the first half.

- This St John’s game is as big as any they’ve played all season. Chance to prove they can get a W on the road, put together an actual conference winning street, local rivalry, not to mention the DJ Kennedy-Herb Pope Pittsburgh connection. Both teams will be jacked and there should be a pretty good atmosphere in Queens. Here’s hoping they bring it, make smart plays, and come away w. a W.

by flexcut1998 on Feb 14, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

I hope they show up as well.

As far as showing up yourself, check this out for directions. Looks like you’ll need to take a bus as well:

Directions to Carnesecca Arena
I.N.D.: Take the E or F train to Kew Gardens/Queens Boulevard. Take the Q-46 bus to Utopia Parkway and Union Turnpike.

I’d post the link, but I found it through downloading a PDF from the St John.’s website, try that out.

Gonzo Ball
[gahn-zo-bawl]
-noun 1. a game played by 13 members of a basketball team, five at a time, sometimes crisp, often sloppy, but always furiously.

by GonzoBallSHU on Feb 14, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

A win is a win......

But it was a sloppy second half. We could not deliver a knockout punch. DePaul actually had chances to cut the lead to 2 and 1 point but turned the ball over and we converted right away to avoid potential disaster. Better be ready for these upcoming games. These upset wins by Louisville and Rutgers help us. Its going to be very tough. However, if we run the table and maybe even win all except WV, we will definitely be on the bubble and may have a shot to get into the dance. Beat St. John’s then get some momentum. You’re right. Bobby finally wised up and got Pope out of the game to avoid putting him on the line. Did you notice Bobby yanked Harvey after his turnover and his lazy play, walking in an offensive set. If we have a shot, Harvey has to show leadership, and stop dogging it at times and pouting when he turns the ball over.

by PirateBlue on Feb 14, 2010 7:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I noticed that with Harvey

…and I was really disappointed, I thought Harvey was ready to step up and take this PG nod by the horns, given JT’s injury, but our starting PG job continues to be a carousel. I’m starting to think, sadly, it’ll be like this the rest of the way.

Gonzo Ball
[gahn-zo-bawl]
-noun 1. a game played by 13 members of a basketball team, five at a time, sometimes crisp, often sloppy, but always furiously.

by GonzoBallSHU on Feb 14, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, not starting PG job... I think Harvey's earned that

I meant our most productive PG of the three continues to be a mystery.

Gonzo Ball
[gahn-zo-bawl]
-noun 1. a game played by 13 members of a basketball team, five at a time, sometimes crisp, often sloppy, but always furiously.

by GonzoBallSHU on Feb 14, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Why does ESPN still have SHU on the bubble watch?

The ESPN Bubble Watch was updated today, with The Hall still on the bubble with a “remote chance” of making the tourney. I don’t know what to say about this. I don’t think this team will make the tournament unless it gets a couple road wins (at the very least).

Look, doesn’t mean much, but its kinda frustrating that they still give this team a chance.

by njny on Feb 15, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

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