Seton Hall Basketball: Weekly Recruiting Roundup, Kevin Johnson Ineligible, Josh Gray Visit, Gonzaga Duo, Boswell and More!
Yesterday we (officially) learned that the Pirates would be without Kevin Johnson for the upcoming season. No surprise there. The Pirates are planning on submitting a partial appeal to the NCAA by November 5th, which would be exactly one month after he was ruled academically ineligible by the NCAA. Seton Hall hopes a waiver will be granted to allow Johnson to practice with the team and work out with the trainer while sitting out the season. Though, these appeals rarely turn out in favor of the school, the school believes there are special circumstances in play that will help them win the appeal according to Jerry Carino.
As Carino tweeted yesterday, the appeal is important for Johnson's development as a player at Seton Hall. Should he be forced to sit out unable to practice and train with the team, both his physical and basketball skills have the possibility of diminishing from the point he was at as a senior at Taft high school. As JP Guerette pointed out yesterday, we saw what happened to Melvyn Oliver in a similar situation at Seton Hall. Without the motivation of playing basketball to drive Oliver, he gained weight while his academics slipped, concurrently. Now, I've been told that Kevin Johnson is off to a great start at school and I'm led to believe that Johnson absolutely will not go down the same path as Oliver, but a year is a long time. A long time coupled with living 3,000 miles away from home and one must keep the dreaded T-word stashed in the back of their mind. I don't see it happening here, but let's not be naive. We're hoping for the best.
The decision that came down in early October is far from all negative news. In fact, if it were up to me and I had to make this decision again, I'd pull the trigger ten-of-ten, times. The fact of the matter is, KJ will be eligible for four years at Seton Hall and is projected to be a major contributor for the Pirates, granted there is not a drastic drop off in his skill set should he sit idle for a year. Though the front-court depth takes a hit this season, next year with the addition of Gene Teague, KJ and the mystery that defies all mysteries, Raymon Austin, set to join AG, Auda and Mobley, the Pirates are going to be one big team. Onto Saturday's recruiting roundup!
- 2012 PG Josh Gray (Phillis Wheatley, Houston) will be visiting Seton Hall on an official visit beginning Wednesday of next week. As reported here, I've been told Gray's decision will likely come down to either Houston or Seton Hall. We know Gray badly wants to play in the Big East and it's undetermined when or if, Houston would eventually join the conference. I wouldn't be surprised to see a commitment coincide with his visit next week.
- Last Sunday, 2013 Gonzaga Prep (DC) duo, 2013 PG Nate Britt and 2013 PF Kris Jenkins took unofficial visits to Seton Hall. Britt is ranked as the 15th overall recruit in the class of '13 and the 2nd highest rated point in the class. His teammate, Jenkins, is a 6'5PF who is rated a '90' on ESPN, while checking in as the 30th ranked PF in the class. Britt, a potential program changer out of the 2013 class is a stretch target for Seton Hall if we've ever seen one.
- 2013 PF Jason Boswell (Trinity Catholic) has a laundry list of potential collegiate suitors as he included Seton Hall amongst 13 other schools he's considering. The Pirates offered Boswell in early August and the player has previously cited close relationships with former Pirates and St. Patrick's alumni, Shaheen Holloway and Grant Billmeier. Boswell attended St. Pat's before transferring to Trinity Catholic this season. He is rated as an, '89' by ESPN and 3-stars by Scout.
- Monday, I was told that the Pirates remain in, "very good shape," with 2013 PG Jaren Sina. Despite their standing, the staff remains committed to bringing in a point guard out of the 2012 class, a decision that could eventually impact Sina's recruitment. Villanova and Alabama both watched the GSB junior workout on Thursday.
- 2013 SF Jared Nickens (St. Patrick's) listed Seton Hall along with: UVA, ND, VCU, Fordham, PSU, SMU, St. Joe's and Rutgers. He visited the Pirates in August and they subsequently offered.
- I'm told 2013 SG Kevin Johnson (Summit Country Day School) currently has a list of six favorites: Seton Hall, Illinois, Cincinnati, Dayton, Davidson and St. Joe's.
Follow the jump for the second half of this week's recruiting roundup!
QUICK HITS:
- Seton Hall is among a growing list of schools interested in 2014 PF Abdul-Malik Abu (Kimball Union). Temple, Cincinnati, Kansas St., Virginia Tech and Rutgers are also involved. Abu recently gave his list to Alex Kline and Seton Hall wasn't included and so, I believe Seton Hall's interest remains in the initial stages.
- I've been told that Central Michigan, URI, Campbell and Detroit lead for 2013 SG Anton Wilson (Flora MacDonald Prep). Seton Hall reached out to Wilson last week, but I'm led to believe the player will likely stay in the mid-west. Wilson will be visiting the University of Detroit around Christmas break.
- In comical recruiting news of the week, 2012 PF Jarrod Davis (Robinson School) popped for UMES. The name might sound familiar as David once committed to Seton Hall without acknowledgement or acceptance from the staff. Just a year ago, Davis was linked to Seton Hall, Marquette, Tennessee and Georgia Tech, but he wound up at Maryland Eastern-Shore.
- One-time stretch Seton Hall target, 2013 PG Jaylen Brantley (W&M Academy), recently gave his list to Alex Kline that saw the Pirates absent. He's reportedly down to: Syracuse, Cincinnati, Georgetown, URI, Missouri, Iowa St., Hofstra, UVA, Richmond, GT, UConn, ND, Florida, Stanford. The Pirates had offered Brantley.
- Still no word on 2012 SF Daniel Dingle (St. Raymond), who was thought to be nearing a decision last week. Dingle will reportedly choose between Seton Hall, Miami, Temple and Auburn. You might as well count the Pirates out of this one. I think Dingle's between Temple and Auburn and if I had to call it, I'd go with the Tigers.
- Finally, Seton Hall is interested in 2012 PF Darion Clark (Oak Hill Academy). Others schools reportedly involved are URI, Charlotte, FGCU, UNCG, not the stiffest of competition. Clark is very athletic, but raw, which goes a long ways in explaining the list of schools considering him at the moment.
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Just got word that Seton Hall picked up the W in Boston tonight against Boston College in their scrimmage.
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Maybe we''ll get an offer from the ACC.
You think?
Hahaha, well played.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Oct 31, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
ACC needs to get a little bit more religious
outside of its Tobacco Road religion I get sick of right around ACC tourney time – lol
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by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
PS - 4 those that don't know - I'm Terps aligned but SH follower
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Seton Hall got a win at Boston College.........
That is a very good sign for a potentially better season then expected.
The more I hear of Seton Hall Basketball the more I think everything will be ok. They can only get better as a program.
W in Bean’town?
Didn’t think it was a game but just a scrimmage of sorts no clock; fouls; just working three-on-threes and stuff like that … if it was a game and we got the W, then YEAH, things ARE looking up for ‘da Hall!
Just going with what I was told by a player who played in the game.
But yea, a scrimmage, probably loosely officiated, but I’m sure it’s clear to the players which team filled up more buckets.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Oct 31, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Help me understand ...
SHU offers a dozen or more, but only has one scholarship to give out. Tuesday four kids say “Yes.” How does this work? Like what subtleties occur in real life that I don’t get (in this particular subject, that is—otherwise, we’re talking infinity).
SHU probably has 30+ standing "offers" out there.
Kids can say yes, but then Seton Hall would have to accept that offer. Though Seton Hall may have offered 10PF in the class of 2012, the players know the Pirates are focusing on a Point Guard and won’t be accepting any PF offers unless somebody transfers following the fall semester.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Oct 31, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Once in a blue moon a kid will "accept" an offer without clearing it with the staff.
See 2012F Jarrod Davis, who last week popped for UMES (of all places). Last April he commited to Seton Hall, (they probably offered at one time), yet the staff was unaware that he was intending to commit when he did and never cleared it with them. Long story short, they never accepted his offer and the whole thing looked ridiculous on his behalf.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Oct 31, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
My apologies to the readers...
… haven’t had power since late Saturday night. No ETA on when I might get it back, bear with me on here and on Twitter for the lack of updates until I’m back up and running, I’ll be doing all that I can!
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Josh Gray just tweeted...
…
“Mississippi State 2012 class is something serious to. People is sleeping on US.”
and
“We going to make it happen #Bulldogs”
Looks like he could be on his way back to Mississippi State before his official visit to Seton Hall. What a strange turn of events.
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let us know if he ends up taking his official to SHU
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My coach walks in on Monday of Bergen week (Bergen Catholic is our biggest rival) and tells us that a media member told him that the Bergen players were talking shi*t about how they are going to kick our a*s. He then says, "you know what I told the media member to tell the Bergen Players? To suck my di*k and eat it. They have no fuc*ing chance of beating us because we are tougher than them"
by seton hall and steelers on Oct 31, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Gonzo
Don’t put too much stock into his tweets. He likes to tweet alot and is just showing respect to Miss St but as far as I know he aint going back to the Bulldogs. I still think it’s Houston or Seton Hall because the Big East card is very attractive.
Usually I wouldn't, but these are especially blatant.
“Sleeping on US and We’re going to make it happen Bulldogs?” I mean they seem somewhat obvious to me, you don’t see Jaren Sina still tweeting about Roll Tide.
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But
He tweeted about a little bit more than a week ago that he was going to moved to NY that Texas didn’t have anything to offer but then change his mind. As far as I know he is considering Houston and Seton Hall as we speak. I guess we will have to wait.
12 hours ago, still tweeted about the visit to SH
thru tweeting Zagsblog piece:
http://twitter.com/ThatsJoshGray/status/131572387446669312
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by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
His Twitter account is a cluster parade of guessing games.
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Can you talk to some of your contacts and find out if he is still visiting Seton Hall?
BC win
Scrimmage or not, can’t read too much into it. BC is in a rebuilding year
New targets SHU has offered:
2012 C Jaleel Cousins, 6’10C (Spanish Fort, AL), brother of Demarcus Cousins. Extremely raw, hasn’t started playing organized ball until last couple years I’m told.
Other schools interested – Central Arkansas, ASU, Jacksonville State, Tennessee State.
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2016 6'7 WF Cameron Diggs
Seton Hall has offered according to the player’s AAU Coach.
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Both recruits are rather large mystery recruits, no surprsie.
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eh, I dunno, the basketball may be the dealbreaker.
There’s very little evidence that Cousins has ever been spotted with a basketball.
I think the one picture/article of him online, his brother Demarcus, is pictured. In a Kings jersey.
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Meant to read...
In the only article of him online, it’s his brother Demarcus who is pictured, playing for the Kings.
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2012 PG Josh Gray will still visit Seton Hall on Thursday
…despite tweeting his allegiance to Mississippi State, yesterday. Well, Willard, step up and knock it out. Time to deliver.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Nov 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
GB:
I have my twitter linked up in my SBNation acct, but it does not pop up like yours does. Am I missing how to link it up? Thx
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by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, that's special code! I'll email that to you tonight, as well.
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Prospect Joe McDonald
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opcfgTz8obw
I found a link to Landon prospect Joe McDonald, who was only 1 assist short of a triple double in this game film. He pulled down 15 boards this game! After seeing him play in person and talking to other area coaches….He’s the REAL deal!
I've been impressed with what I've seen of McDonald, but I believe SHU is looking for more out of their '12 PG.
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