Seton Hall Basketball: Final - Northwestern Wildcats 80, Seton Hall 73; Pope's Performance Not Enough for Pirates
The Pirates were defeated by Northwestern, 80-73, in the championship game of the Charleston Classic, a game in which Seton Hall led with 3:20 to play. On Thursday afternoon, I noted that we would have learned a lot about this young basketball team on Sunday night and now, with the tournament over, we have. This isn't the same team that appeared unprepared and lifeless a week ago. The stumble the Pirates (nearly) took against St. Francis last Saturday, doesn't appear to have set the tone for the season. Don't get me wrong, the team made plenty of mistakes tonight, on both ends, and late in the game at that. That said, there's plenty of positives to take away, not just from the championship game, but from the weekend in general.
Credit to the Northwestern Wildcats, a clinic in ball security and back-door cuts led them to a 10 point cushion at the half. They successfully executed 4 more back-door screens than turnovers committed, as they recorded just one TO in the first 20 minutes. After weathering a 15-0 Seton Hall second half run that saw the Pirates take the lead, the Wildcats held their composure. After made buckets, they began to break out their 1-3-1 defense, throwing the Pirates off after seeing little of it in the first half. Luckily for the Pirates, the Wildcats had somewhat of an off-shooting night, which allowed Seton Hall to stick around and almost leave Charleston with the chip. The Pirates outshot the Wildcats from 3PT distance, rebounded better on both ends and finished with more assists (15-14), but it didn't get the job done. In the end, the Pirates made too many mistakes as the clock dwindled away, including Cosby and Theodore rushing 3-pointers early in the shot clock and a failure to find Pope in the team's final possessions.
As much as the Pirates late game execution will be questioned, the performance and loss, must at least begin with Patrik Auda. In leading up to the game, you heard it from JP and myself that it was time for Auda to break out if the Pirates wanted to defeat Northwestern. Well, they probably could have had the game without Auda, but he did them no favors in getting as close as they did. So, we haven't seen the three-point specialist or the World Games breakout performer that has been hyped for the last two years, but tonight, Auda was simply, awful. Early in the game, he ripped down a quick 4-rebounds and I was convinced he'd hit the glass hard all night long. I was wrong. He would finish with just one additional rebound throughout the night. Furthermore, he looked unsure the majority of the time he was on the court. His rotations were slow, his hands were as useful as stone and the apex of his night came at the lips of a Kevin Willard chew-out following a blown assignment. The final stat line: 0pts (5 shot attempts)/5reb/3ast/2to. He's even losing playing time to Haralds Karis, who finished with 27 minutes to Auda's 23.
In Friday's St. Joe's recap, I stated that I wasn't down on Herb Pope's play, I just expected more, knowing what he's capable of. His play tonight? That's what I'm talking about. Having the game of his life, Herb Pope put his team on his back and nearly carried them himself, to the finish line. Finishing with a career-high 32pts on 14-of-17 shooting (2-of-2 3PT), Pope nearly notched his fourth double-double (originally was credited with 32/10, since has been changed) in as many games bringing down 9 rebounds. He also added 2 blocks and 2 steals (really 3, but the third was deflected off a NW player and out of bounds), in the most complete performance he's put forth while at Seton Hall. The game tape tonight is the type of material that NBA scouts drool over. Luckily for Pope, he made both of his 3-point attempts. On that note, he's about to revoke my right to criticize his shot selection moving forward. That is, until he misses his next one. I'm kidding.
Look for JP's 5 thoughts Monday afternoon and we'll see you again, Tuesday, at home against the Yale Bulldogs.
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It was performance anxiety against St. Francis, tonight it was...
lack of experience. They’re young. they need some time. Other than that… How ’bout that Pope!?
Give credit to NW...
…they are a fundamentally sound team with both ability and leadership.
Aside for poor shot selection in the final min’s of the game, I was extremely encouraged, overall, by this Pirate team.
Obvious: Pope was, again, a man among children, scoring at will. His ability to position himself under the basket shows his savvy and clear understanding for the art of rebounding. He looks better than I’ve ever seen him.
Not as obvious: Passing. I’m thrilled, THRILLED, with what I see out of Cosby and Karlis. It’s early, and perhaps I’m putting the cart before the horse, but Karlis in particular may have a huge 4 years at SHU. His ability to throw quick passes with precision allowed Cosby and Theo (mostly) an extra fraction of a second to get a good shot off. This doesn’t show up in the stat sheet, necessarily, but don’t be shocked to see shooting percentages go up as a result.
We have an oportunity to build off this experience and continue to move forward in the development of this team.
As always, HAZARD ZET!
by HallBall99 on Nov 21, 2011 6:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
When the passes got tired and lazy late in the 2nd, Karlis' still had zip on his.
He’s very fundamentally sound with freakish athleticism. Interesting that Grennan saw some more PT and apparently surpassed Freddie on the depth chart. Neither one has impressed me through four games. I can’t get a read on Grennan, he’s got insane energy, but as I mentioned on Twitter, I don’t know if he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing out there, or it just appears that way.
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Be fair...
Grennan has had so little court time, it’s really hard to judge. It’s one of Willard’s weaknesses, he is very slow to let these young inexperienced guys get on the court. And this is when it has to happen.
I thought my comment on Grennan was fair...
I said I can’t tell whether he doesn’t know what he’s doing, or if it just appears that way. I never said he DOESN’T know what he’s doing. I just can’t tell yet.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Nov 21, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Freddie and Grennan are freshmen................
This isnt the NBA. Teams are not playing with professionally experienced players. These guys are 18 to 19 year old “Freshmen”. They are young guys playing major college basketball for their first time.
To expect any freshmen to come into any major college basketball program and expect them to play like they were Juniors or Seniors, just isnt reality.
To play like upper classman, your right, those expectations would be unfair.
But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect them to contribute SOMETHING when they’re on the floor. They were recruited to play Big East basketball after all.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Nov 21, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Cosby (Frosh) leads the team in min's this year...
All of the freshman, less Grennan and Mobley, have contributed – some more than others.
Cosby looked like a junior the way he stepped up against St. Joe’s and Karlis has had flashes likening a seasoned player.
Frankly, I’m very impressed with this class. Far more impressed than I thought I’d be.

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