Seton Hall Basketball: JP's 5 Thoughts- SHU 75, UConn 63
That was fun.
It was cathartic, it was impressive, and it was SO DAMN FUN!
Shaking off some opening rust, the Pirates responded in a gigantic way, thoroughly dismantling the defending national champions with wall-to-wall effort and hustle, improving to 2-1 in the Big East and 9-0 this season at home. Pirate fans are ecstatic, and have a right to be- earlier this season, we talked about emerging 1-2 from the first three games of the Big East slate this season, saying that we'd sign up for that.
I think it's time to change what we'd sign up for. Here are the Thoughts from Kevin Willard's biggest win yet at The Hall, one that left every Pirate in the Nation smiling ear to ear:
- No Jazz for Shabazz
Coach Willard's gameplan was to try and shut down Shabazz Napier, knowing Jeremy Lamb would get his (he did, with a game-high 19 PTS). Napier, meanwhile, was harassed into a miserable night, consisting of 2-12 shooting (1-6 from deep) for 6 PTS, 4 AST and 5 TO. The Pirates were physical with him, and even knocked him down a couple times with no call from the officials. The result was that Napier was taken mentally out of the game, and when that happened, UConn's offense stalled irreparably. The Huskies were forced into stagnant possessions and they just couldn't get anything close to the paint, taking them completely out of their gameplan. Major kudos to the coaching staff.
- 5 Hour Mobley
Seton Hall needed a lift in the first half after the first 4 minutes left them down 11-4 with Patrik Auda already in foul trouble. They got it in a big way from Brandon Mobley. 8 PTS, 7 REB and two threes dug the Pirates out of that ditch and led them on their way to nearly tripling UConn's output from the under-16 timeout until halftime. His energy was palpable, and it spread to the rest of the team like a shot of caffeine in the morning. It may not have been the exact reason Seton Hall won the game, but without that lift, it's a much different ball game.
- Fuquan the Fantastic
Fuquan Edwin may not have had 5 steals or anything, but he DID get his first career double-double of 12 PTS and 11 REB. But Edwin's impact went further than that- he was a ball-hawk tonight, and his presence caused several deflections (of which Coach Willard said the Pirates had 40 for the game in the press conference) and led to steals for others. Edwin, when he defends like he's capable of (which is often), is a player that disrupts the opposing offense with his ninja-quick reflexes and length. Jay Bilas hits it right on the head with this tweet from last night.
- Mr. Theodore's Opus
You have to give Jordan Theodore a lot of credit. His second half was a thing of beauty- all 19 of his points came in that half, with three straight three-pointers sandwiched around the second media timeout that put the game all but out of reach. He also added 11 AST, tying his career-high, against just 4 TO. In fact, Theodore is now just 26 AST away from tying the number he had ALL OF LAST SEASON. Leaving him off the Cousy Award list is looking stupider and stupider by the millisecond.
- Looking Ahead
I don't want to brag (too much, haha), but I called both a bench player stepping up unexpectedly tonight (Mobley) AND the three-point barrage in the second half while courtside for WSOU. Looking into the future now, the Pirates now have 5 games in which they should be favored to win- at Providence, home to DePaul, at USF, at Villanova, home to Notre Dame. It represents an enormous opportunity for them. If they continue to win games, with the victory tonight, it should get them a spot in the Top-25. And this isn't the Gonzo-era smoke and mirrors Top-25 talk. This is legitimate. Legitimate wins will do that for you. Many think that a W at Providence on Saturday will get Seton Hall back into the polls. I'll reserve judgement on that, but if they take advantage of the next couple weeks, we could be looking at something BIG this season.
That's all for now. My preview of the Providence game should be up either late Friday or Saturday morning here on the Juice. I am eternally grateful to have had the opportunity to call this game for WSOU, and hopefully those good feelings continue for the team, the fanbase, and all of Pirate Nation.
Fly those flags proudly, Pirate fans. After all this time, you certainly deserve it.
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No question, in my mind, we're ranked on Monday, granted we take care of business at Providence.
Don’t reserve judgement, JP! Haha, I assume you’re leaning towards a win at Providence won’t be enough to get us in, next week?
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The Pirates will definately sway more voters......
….but keep in mind that they only recieve 2 votes this week. My gut is telling me they will be “on the cusp” but the collective voting panel will still want to see more from the Pirates. Its going to take a little bit more to shake the stigma left from the gonzo era. (I think some people are waiting for the bottom to fall out)
Irregardless of rankings, last night the Pirates established themselves as a “tournement ready” team, capable of winning on the road, at home and at neutral sites.
2003 said it well
The votes are nice, but SHU was on the bottom rung in terms of receiving votes. Stigma may still be there, and while we are all very optimistic this time around, I think the Gonzo era taught us that we can’t take anything for granted as fans.
When and if we do make the polls again, then we can celebrate. For now, Willard and the team are focused solely on the next game, which, although PC isn’t as good, should still be tough since the Friars are playing much better under Ed Cooley.
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Absolutely.
If people want to get caught up in rankings, the Pirates are ranked a solid #3 in the nation playing the #5 toughest schedule, accoring to RPI. That has a nice ring to it, IMO.
Not caught up in rankings per say, but I stand by my comments that SHU will be ranked in both polls on Monday.
Whether I’m in the minority of thinking that, I don’t know. But I’d be shocked if they aren’t. We’ll see.
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I respect your opinion,
And as long as the hall keeps doing what they are doing (winning), the rankings will sort themselves out. Just keep chugging away one game at a time.
lol at Andre Drummond
bet he knows who Herb Pope is now. Pirates should be top 25 if they win out this week.
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Drummond looked utterly embarrassed sitting on the pine after being benched the majority of the second half.
As he should be. Before he calls out one of the best players in the conference, let’s see something other than beating up on high school kids. No wonder he wanted to prep another year instead of playing college ball.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Jan 4, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Good solid win!
Great for the players, coach, staff and the program. When we played ‘Cuse we had a target on our backs and ’Cuse blew a hole in us. Today that target is back. The league will be gunning for us. We can’t take anything for granted. Wins are isolated events. We just have to play our best and hope our youth and inexperience doesn’t rear its ugly head along the way. Willard & Company can’t be praised enough for his handling of the team so far. But we have to beat Providence to make Uconn victory stick.
Kyle Anderson....
Is he 2nd guessing his decision to not sign with SHU and go out west?
I think he must be, though he will never say it publicly
It has to be tough watching UCLA play so awful while watching his hometown team that is supposed to be his “favorite” team growing up as a kid dominate and being ranked in the top 25. My dream is that UCLA does so awful that Howland gets fired and then KA decommits from UCLA
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 4, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Can you "decommit"?
I know you can transfer and sit out a year. But does your national letter of intent bind you to that school for one year?
He fell in love with Westwood, not necessarily UCLA.
He wanted a different life style in Cali. He’s not de-committing. Besides, there are plenty of other fishes in the sea. Especially if we keep up the good play.
Im aware but one can dream can't he?
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 4, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yes you can if there are certain circumstances
and a head coach being fired is one of those circumstances
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 4, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. Even if the coach is fired, he can not decommit.
He would need to transfer at the end of his first semester. I think it’s more likely he rides out his freshman year and if he’s unhappy, to just enter the draft, if he was projected to go early.
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He can be granted his release by the school, if Howland is fired, but just as well, they could refuse to.
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Think you're looking to much into KA at the games.
He was very vocal that he would still be attending games even if he chose to go elsewhere. He’s been a SHU, “fan” all his life and is very tight with Jordan and Fu.
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i don’t know if anyone noticed but victor cruz was at the game last night. also
http://twitter.com/#!/TeamVic/status/154414951778365440
Yep, noted that on Twitter, we was sitting in the front row, though couldn't make out who he was with.
He even celebrated in the Seton Hall locker room after the game. He’s close with PC alums (as he’s one himself), Jordan Theodore and Fuquan Edwin.
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How bad is Rutgers
They let up more points to wv in the first half than Seton Hall did in the whole game
by setonhall44 on Jan 4, 2012 8:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let’s STOP talking about the Polls
and focus on the game we need to WIN on Sat … just keep on winning and the Polls will take care of themselves … as of Monday, NCAA Coach’s Poll had ‘da Hall ranked at 33 tied w/’Bama & Purdue w/3 votes each … need about 70 votes more to break into the Coach’s Top 25 … and the AP has ‘da Hall @ 38 tied w/Cal at ONLY 2 votes each … gonna need at least 100 more to break into the AP Top 25 … just saying!
NOW let’s talk about the next few games … PC, DePaul & USF (sorry I’m gonna miss that game) are all winnable … USF picked off RU after the Knights beat #10 Florida, and we have lost there a few times of late … NOVA is down this year but I have been on campus a lot over the years (there when the fight happened in the SHU locker room at half) and this is a very tough place to play … then comes the Irish @ the ROCK; down somewhat this year team but always a hard game to win …
If we take the next 5 games (ONLY 15 left till BET) and focus on WINNING the next 3rd of the season we will be just find and NO WAY we won’t be in the Polls … so win and we are in!
GO HALL and continue sailing this Pirate Ship with a ton of energy and intensity like the last two games and everyone will be talking about our Kids at ‘da Hall!
Everywhere you look, read, or watch they're talking about the polls.
Willard addressed it on SNY today and said it would be great for the seniors to see that they’re in the top 25 come Monday. Many other articles, including Jason King’s on ESPN this evening said they should be in on Monday. I think they will be, as well. Sure, it doesn’t mean anything yet, but it does warrant discussion and it is a milestone for our program, seeing as we haven’t been in for a decade! C’mon Jersey Jerry! Let’s bring that Booty to the Associated Press!
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Polls
I kinda agree with Jersey Jerry. Let the polls take care of themselves.Those last 2 wins were a thing of beauty. Duke lost last night, we take down UCONN, Rutgers beats FL. My point is, careful for what you wish for.We will not make the polls if we lose to Prov, coupled with a Rutgers win, if we due it will be real close. LOL………….look you guys got me doing it. It kinda reminds me of earlier in the year of the KA situation, which I wish we would just put to bed. I guess Jerry and I and I"m sure a few others just don’t want to put the cart B/4 the horse, one day @ a time is all.Not trying to be a party pooper Bro’s, just don’t want get disappointed.One more win on the road and I"m all in with poll conversations. Feeling good being Blue…………….
All along, I've been saying IF we beat Providence Saturday, we'll be ranked.
We can’t be ranked before then as the polls come out on Monday. If we beat Providence and we still aren’t ranked, I will be upset and surprised, but can ya do? The team will keep chugging along whether they make the AP Top 25 or not. They won’t alter their play one way or another (I hope), but as fans, it’s a good measuring stick and makes for some good discussion/debate among us.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Bottom line is
Providence didn’t look so bad against Syracuse last night. We will have to BRING it 100% on Saturday…then we can see how the polls go.
Also, bottom line is…it is so so so so great to be a Pirates fan again. We suffer through so much waiting for seasons and moments like this…now it might be our turn to be good for awhile. I smiled for so long after that game…I don’t think I sat down the whole two hours. I was just so pumped. In fact, I don’t think I have stopped smiling yet!! I am just so excited about this season, and want to savour it, one exciting game after another.
The sails have been lifted…..the rest of the BE is on notice that….THERE BE PIRATES IN THESE WATERS!!!!
Concur.
My power went out in the SECONDS following the final buzzer against UConn. I recently lost power for over one week (October) from the freak snow storm we had. First thought was, “Oh no…” That thought lasted for about 10 seconds. Then it turned to, “We just beat UConn and my beer is cold, time to start writing this recap.” I could care less the power went out, we just had the biggest win in a very long time and we were trending worldwide on Twitter. Life was good.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Jan 5, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
take it easy
JerseyJerry – huh? Fight at halftime of Villanova? If you’re talking about Griffin-Shine, that was halftime at the Meadowlands versus G’town back in 2001. What fight are you referring to? I don’t know of another one.
I think that fight was the last time we were ranked? Saw someone reference it as why we shouldn't be ranked, lol.
I’m sure that fight was purely coincidental. But I don’t see Jerry talking about a fight? Unless he took down the comment?
Hey, polls, no polls, here’s a poll, there’s a poll. Guess what? We’re debating about whether we should be discussing whether we’ll be in a poll come Monday. I don’t know about any of ya’ll, but if you told me in the offseason that this would be the discussion on SOJ on January 5th, I would have said, SIGN ME UP.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Gonzo Not Backing down.
Thanks Gonzo for backing what you believe was an unfair statement that Porter wrote over on the Uconn blog. He was for sure upset with the loss and found that to be an excuse. I saw how he back pedaled with his argument. The other writer Kevin was fair with you however he had to protect Porter, what else could he do, thanks. I saw SetonHall Steelers over on the Rutgers Blog making a fair comment about ther game against WV, however, unless your going to congratulate them on a win, I would consider it trolling, no offense Steelers, its just the way it is. When teams lose thet don’t want to hear any comments from another school. I know I hate when they come to us.
Yes sir. I'm done with my contributions over there (not that they'd be concerned with that in the least).
But like I said over there, I could have read 100 recaps, and not one other one would have used that as an excuse. Whatever. It’s not something I’d use in my recaps, but hey, it’s not my blog. It’s theirs. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech is awesome.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yo, 1since40
in Feb of ‘01 I was at NOVA and when the kids came out of the locker room after halftime Ty had a shiner and the team Priest (Fr. Mohoney I think) told me he left the locker room due to the fight w/ Eddie and that he had never seen anything like it before … that’s my story and I’m sticking w/it ’cause it happened ’n I was there!

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