Seton Hall Basketball: Pirates Receive #24 ranking in the AP Poll
by JPGuerette on Jan 9, 2012 1:12 PM EST
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According to sources, Seton Hall is ranked 24th in the country by the Associated Press, the first time the Pirates have been ranked since January 29th, 2001.
This is cause for celebration among the Pirate faithful. A return to the Top-25 is just the latest signal of how far this program has come in just a short time under Kevin Willard, and how much hard work and leadership really do pay off. We can only hope here at South Orange Juice that the level of play continues as the season rolls along
But what of the other poll? Well, that's going to be the bone of major contention with the fanbase this week.
Inexplicably, the Pirates are not ranked in the ESPN/USAToday Coaches' Poll, receiving just 38 points in that poll for a ranking of 28th overall.
Initial reactions were ones of utter shock. Seton Hall seems to have all the ingredients for being ranked- a strong overall record (14-2), great wins (UConn, West Virginia, Dayton, VCU, St. Joe's), no bad losses, and an RPI ranking of 3rd in the nation. Yet the coaches saw fit to not rank the Pirates this week.
Here's my question: ARE THEY NUTS?! There is no way that Seton Hall should not be ranked. What they have done so far this season is absolutely worthy without question. The exclusion of the Pirates was universally talked down on Twitter by pretty much every writer that this guy follows (and believe me, I follow a lot of writers), an indication that this is not just someone looking through the proverbial blue and white glasses.
Anyway, I'm not going to dwell on the negative too much, nor am I going to say that the Pirates' ranking isn't where it should be in the AP Poll. The school motto is, after all, "Hazard Zet Forward." I guess it will take some more overcoming of the Hazards to advance Forward in the eyes of certain pollsters.
Welcome back to the party, Pirates! You have earned this. Even if some people with a vote in their hands don't think so.
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If they win their games this week they’ll be in the coaches poll next week.
Sure, but
it should have been this week. Their resume is better than some of the teams ahead of them.
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But at the end of the day, or season, does it really matter?
This week, next week, last week??? The focus doesnt change. And its important not to get caught up in the rankings. Depaul tommorrow night. They beat pitt on the road. USF on Friday night, they have been playing well as of late. Both are going to be tough (albeit winnable) games. With wins this week the Hall is 16-2 (5-1). Keep it rolling.
agree
i am definitely excited to see us ranked and to break the streak; it has been a while. however, i dont think it really matters and to be honest, i’d rather have us fly under the radar for as long as possible. once you’re ranked the size of the target on you increases. let’s just keep our heads down and keep working with the larger goals in mind.
Agreed, fly under the radar...
For a while longer……
The focus doesn't change no, but being ranked does help publicity for the program, both in donations & recruits.
Simple truth… people like winners and only 25 teams in the country are viewed as such week in and week out.
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If syracuse Loses
If syracuse loses, there will be an unranked team in the coaches poll tied for the lead of the big east 5 games into conference play
If Syracuses loses....
vs. Providence? At home? Seriously?
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While I don't disagree that the Pirates
should be ranked top 25 in both polls. There is no reason to get bent out of shape about it, over-discuss, over-analyze, ect ect ect. There is still a lot of basketball to play. And I would rather see the Hall ride out the season in the polls than be a here-one-week-gone-the-next.
Yes, the hall has a better record than 10 teams in front of them. Yes, they have a stronger resume at this point in the season. But they are still going to have to keep winning to shed the still lingering stigma from the Gonzo days. Two strong games this week vs Depaul and in Tampa should do that. Kevin Willard is doing a fantastic job and these kids are playing there hearts out for him. Keep it up and rankings/standings/seedings will fall into place.
While I am Disappointed
It may be better in the long run that we dont seem to have everyone’s respect yet. I imagine this will put a bigger chip on the shoulder of some of the guys…especially Theodore.
I'm surprised we're in any poll!
The voters just don’t want to believe it. They’re waiting for the shoe to drop – not the other shoe but the shoe. Our OCS was easy. Our BE wins mere flukes. One more loss and we’ll probably be brought up on charges of tampering with reality by the NCAA. Go figure. And just go and beat De Paul!
don't find it a big deal that they aren't ranked in the coaches poll
they’re still ranked 28th overall and a mere 22 votes from making you happy. There is little difference in being 24th compared to 28th in another poll. I don’t think it is something to get up in arms about.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
we should however focus on the fact that Joe Lunardi has The Hall at a 6 seed in his most recent bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
awwww yeeeaaahhh
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
Joe had us playing in Dayton as a #13 play-in last week
sssoooooooooooo things are looking up … like fouline stated ~ just go and beat De Paul … thinks will work out just OK if Coach & Company keep our kids focused and we continue to add to that left column and NOT the right … GO HALL!
Jerry whats the story on Jared Sina ????
Do tell ?
Sina has crossed Seton Hall off his list of team's he's considering since the Carr commitment.
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Tks Gonzo
Did’nt like the smell of that.
SBNation has us as a 3-seed and SI a 4 seed.
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Just Keep Winning
The only team that is highly questionable is Harvard still being ranked after losing to Fordham. SO nice to be worried about whether the Pirates are ranked in the top 25 or not. Just play and win one game at a time and keep having fun. Go Pirates!!
Just win, baby
Getting ranked in the AP poll for the first time in over a decade is huge. In some ways, not getting ranked in the Coach’s Poll could be a blessing in disguise. Says to the team that there are still doubters out there. It’s a chip on the shoulder. All they need to do now is just prove the doubters wrong.
Harvard??
Are the coaches crazy? One we have a better record than Harvard ( SHU 14-2 HU 13-2) have no bad losses (HU lost to Fordham) and we beat Uconn, Harvard lost to them.
Ranked or not ranked we still have to win our next two games and we all no that the 24 next to our name wont help. If we want to be in the polls next week we have to win this week. I am thrilled that they are ranked, hope they keep winning and excited about tomorrow. Go Pirates
by setonhall44 on Jan 9, 2012 5:34 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I amazed we were ranked this quickly
As much as I personally believe we are one of the top 25 teams and belong at the top of the BE, I am not suprised that others see us as a flash in the pan. If you look at where we were in Coach Orr’s last season, Coach Gonzalez’s tenure and Coach Willard’s first, its no suprise some are afarid to pull the trigger and vote for the Pirates. (Very few realize that had Hazel not sustained injury, the Pirates would have been in the top 25 last season)
The only opinion that matters at this point of the season comes from Pirate Nation. We have turned the corner on the court and on recruiting and soon, fans of the visiting team will no longer be able to show up at game time to fill the place.
We will keep winning and the votes, sell outs at the Rock, prime time games, HD cameras, better announcers and Dickie V will come around. Be patient, it takes time.
Sellouts
Selling out the bottom ring @ the rock or removing the black curtain sell outs?
Not a sell out until we remove the curtains.
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by GonzoBallSHU on Jan 10, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Should be a few recruits at the game.
Bunch of the kids have games tomorrow, but we’re working on getting another couple in the house.
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